Carl or someone with Hynautic steering is best to answer the proper pressure question. It should ease as time goes on. Rebuilding a Hynautic H50 Hydraulic steering helm, All new seals, No more leaks! I'm not convinced that is exactly true. Hynautic H50 Repair & Bleeding December 18, 2021 - by Jarod - 13 Comments. Ron O'Blenis B 38 175 Hinos 1989 Completed Great Loop Engines: 480CE. Georgia Indiana We also welcome Meridian and Maxum owners! A meeting place for Bayliner Owners. That is if the installation was correct and you did not roll or twist the seal as you pushed it over the shaft. California Nico has put together an impressive list of tomato varieties for 2021. Steps to Troubleshoot Your Hydraulic Steering System Problem 1: Hard Steering Problem 2: Slow or Partial Turning Problem 3: Mushy Steering Problem 4: You Have A Leak Problem 5: Bumpy Operation Problem 6: Drifting Off Course Conclusion Steps to Troubleshoot Your Hydraulic Steering System Is your boat's hydraulic steering system causing you trouble? ~1986 There are two steering stations, one on the bridge, and one up in the tower. Thanks for sharing! Steering system by andiamo Tue, 04/28/2015 - 09:50 : 3 : 1,379 : by Thoward Fri, 05/29/2015 - 17:52 : Normal topic: hynautic steering systems by Blackfin Mike Mon, 05/27/2013 - 21:12 : 10 : 3,571 : by PICSWG Tue, 10/29/2013 - 12:08 . Loosen and back off by hand. o^v[9JI)TE)C[}sh
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Web seastar steering (front mount pivot cylinder) 48: Web first outboard hydraulic steering system from seastar solutions; Mechanical Steering Sh8050 Helm, Cable & Kit Length 'Y' (Ft) (M) Seastar Part No No 7 2.13 Ssc13107 Txssc13107. Pennsylvania by Carl Jun 17th, '21, 06:15, Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. New York ), U-Flex, Hy-Drive, IMCO, Latham, etc? You may want to look at another steering system like a Seastar or dual cable. Web Hynautic Recommends The System Be At 25 Psi. does anyone know the procedure for bleeding and adding fluid to a Hynautic steering system, boat has been laid up for a long time and no responce from upper or lower helm in respect to rudder, Im assuming the fluid leaked out somewhat, I remember years ago I had this system in my boat and I bled it out , but dont remember thanks prowlersfish The following fluids can be used: Hynautic Steering Fluid MCO-06 ; Dextron 3 Automatic Transmission Fluid; Aircraft Hydraulic Fluid. Getting Started Final part of the hydraulic hoses for the Hynautic steering system. Florida :/\2t>[d#e&)E Y2>0cp
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All the Hynautic folks are gone since Morse sold out to Teleflex. Lower station works fine. Outboard Specialty Tools Bubble Purge G2 Hydraulic Steering Bleed and Purge Kit for Seastar OST-PBB.001. It wasn't too bad really. Added more pressure to the reservoir abt 50 lbs keep oil up around 3/4. Is there pressure on the cylinder? Thanks so much! HWkHWa%KfJn-c1wN80=da+m2=L59}Vaz{z~zUR2(r2Uu
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Apr 23, 2004 #4 Re: Bleeding Hydraulic steering . You shouldn't have to purge the cylinder unless the system was extremely low on fluid in which case there may have been some air forced down that far. 0000041588 00000 n
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How to Bleed a Hynautic steering system. Here is an explanation of exactly, Guide to Hynautic Steering Troubleshooting, Hynautic Steering Bleeding Instructions: Step-by-Step DIY Guide, Hynautic Steering Troubleshooting: The Complete Guide, Hynautic Steering System Owners Manual: Installation and Service Instructions, SE Sport Hydrofoil Reviews: Improved Outboard Motor Control, Nauticus Smart Tabs Review: Trim Tabs To Boost Your Boats Performance, Bennett Trim Tabs Review: Achieve Unmatched Boat Stability and Performance, Lenco Trim Tab Actuator 101 Replacement Guide, Lenco Auto Glide Review, Installation, & Owners Manual. Greg. H-20 series fluid leak. For the steering system go to the Sea Star web site and find the instructions to bleed your hynautic steering system. New Hampshire These utilized a power steering pump that was generally mounted on the port engine. Opening the charging valve bypasses the cylinder so that when you turn the steering wheel oil is cirulated in a loop through the reservoir. 1. 0000034649 00000 n
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West Virginia You need to keep turning the wheel when it is against the stop to get the air burped out of the bypass valves. (by the way, i design hydraulic systems for a living; have for the last 40 years). endobj
Wisconsin STOP! Never had an issue. Will pull unit for a rebuild. Vessel Name: Just A Fluke II. For 2 line systems, helm and cylinder only, no seperate reservoir, H-60, H-80, H-100 series: Click Here Remove thehex plug from topofreservoir and fill with oil towithin 1/2" and replace the hex plug. The boat is prowling and when I turn the steering wheel, I hear the bearings. Locate the two screws with pinned 1/2" hex nuts on top of relief valve. Delaware Purge the line in that direction, tighten nut and loosen other and turn steering wheel the other way. Turn the steering wheel to full lock in one direction, and then apply additional force to pressurize the system. , BayStar Hydraulic Steering Kit HK4200A-3 Review & Installation Guide, Steps to Troubleshoot Your Hydraulic Steering System. Your email address will not be published. I had no problem before I changed the seal kit and have even replaced the upper helm steering with Sea star conversion. by Tavis Feb 5th, '21, 18:55, Post Maybe, it may just end up pushing oil out of the other helm, but in theory, Im not sure in practice, but in theory the check valves should keep the oil where it needs to be, but I would be incredibly careful just in case those check valves dont hold and you end up losing steering while under way. Massachusetts 0000031580 00000 n
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Hi, one of the helms is leaking oil. commercial fishing boats. If you are turning in the right direction to bleed the cylinder shouldn't move. UFLEX and HyNautic are brands of Italian Manufacturer ULTRAFLEX GROUP About 15 years ago in the shipyard i worked in Italy we installed some of the square UFLEX systems and they where not good and lasted considerable less than the SeaStar; The G2 kit and bottle remain completely sealed during the entire process. Added oil to reservoir about full, pumped air to about 35 Lbs. Kentucky trailer
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Yes, I do have the pressure tank. 00. Click here to see the reservoirs. Web 148 seastar, baystar & hynautic products: Web bleeding or purging a seastar hydraulic steering system is easy to do, but requires two people, so make sure you have an assistant on hand to help. You have to unscrew the two hex bolts under the resevour/ alum block manifold type block. Installed two new cranking batteries and on my 1979 28' FB and engines fired up beautifully. An air compressor with chuck will help but you will need up to 25PSI here. Before you get started, you'll need to decide what type of vegetables you want to grow. New South Wales The first time I did it, I did not realize I needed new crush washers and all my bleeding was in vain! Hynautic steering bleeding instruction. The steering should only stop when it reaches the end of stroke on the cylinder. Had to drain antifreeze down to perform this job. 0000036367 00000 n
Maintenance of pump 20 HB; Maintenance of pumps 26/40/50 HB; Maintenance of pumps 30/35 HB; Maintenance of pumps 29/35 CT HB; Filling and bleeding LS hydraulic steering system with Speedy Purge; Assembly and disassembly of cylinders fitted with clips marine hydraulic controls. Fill and Bleed the System Topic: Bleeding Hynautic hydraulic steering: wwbach: posted 07-10-2005 05:02 PM ET (US) . 0000019169 00000 n
Im not convinced that is exactly true. The bleed valves are pinned just open them and spin the wheel then tighten. 4 0 obj
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Bleeding Hydraulic steering This should take care of the problems you are having. by Yannis Feb 7th, '21, 05:35, Post 4.9 out of 5 stars 106. turning counterclockwise until they stop. <>stream
I'm not a hydraulic expert, but the point is to get the air out - that's why you bleed from the lowest point on an intial installation. Open these nuts till they stop, They will not come all out. State/Province: Web in this video is how to check the level and bleed a sea star outboard hydraulic steering system. How does the air get expeled from the system at the upper helm? 1 0 obj
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If the cylinder is not equipped with bleeders, crack open the fitting connections. When readers choose to buy our independently chosen editorial picks, we earn affiliate commissions that support our work. the wheel spun freely, and air was visible in all three of the clear plastic lines. Had same expierance, lost upper steering. Make sure you have pressure in the bleed tank first. Ill have to look at the spare helm Ive got sitting here, Im not sure Ive seen an E marked and not an X, perhaps it is a derivative or has been repaired before or something, Either way, Ill take a peek at this helm of mine and see what I can see, hopefully find something useful for you! My neighbor was helping me and suggested we do a sea trial. ($12.99 - $2,549.99) Find great deals on the latest styles of Compare gps systems. Hi Alan! as just mentioned above the ram is at the rear of the boat, attached to the tie rod that is attached to the tiller arms,,it looks like a horizontal shock absorber with 2 black poly lines attached to it and does the job of moving the rudders,,,these lines are not the ones to loosen during bleeding,,,the bleed valves are on the opposite side of the ram's cylinder.. Help protect your boating environment by ensuring that all used oil is disposed of properly. 4.6 out of 5 stars 126. . by Tony Meola Feb 6th, '21, 21:23, Post Top. <>stream
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The reservoir or a block near the cylinder has hex nuts. Had to bleed after autopilot install. Great video. Saskatchewan Mine has never had issue in 20 years. One of our members writes: "We have a simple hydraulic system: pump and 4 double-acting cylinders. Dropped reservoir pressure to 15 lbs. These steering systems can be tricky to repair and bleed, some have gone so far to say that it cant be done without extensive training and experience. 0000034627 00000 n
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Web Hynautic, Teleflex, And All Other Brands Of Hydraulic Steering Sold And Repaired. by Carl Jun 11th, '21, 14:18, Post How to Bleed Hydraulic Steering Boating Magazine Follow Optimize outboard performance by learning how to bleed hydraulic steering. Myself and my Mechanic friend are at a loss as to what is going on. The further the helm from the resevoir the more turns you need to purge the system. I4 ?q{mU|:$;'m$nk\Pq)GA)o_Hkg1i03(a/(J\8dKo?n"RR3fsM%Zoa"!m1*~tEST0 ,=Z|qfrJ Oklahoma 66. Try turning the rudder or outboards by hand. Iowa Web web seastar hc5345 parts diagram. 5 0 obj
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